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S2 EP80. Libby & Andy Drish: How to Transform Relationship Death into Lifelong Devotion

2 April 2025 by Raj Jana

In this deeply intimate conversation, I sit down with Libby and Andy Drish, a couple who have mastered the delicate balance between devotion and freedom in their 15-year relationship. Starting young and admittedly anti-relationship, they’ve navigated through volatile beginnings to discover a level of harmony most couples never experience. What sets their journey apart is their extraordinary commitment to relationship mastery—they’ve dedicated years to studying with the world’s most advanced relationship teachers, experimenting with cutting-edge frameworks, and developing their own maps for love’s terrain. Their journey reveals how relationships evolve through distinct stages and how the thread of devotion can sustain you through the darkest moments when nothing else is working. Unlike most couples who rely on conventional wisdom, Andy and Libby have approached their relationship like relationship astronauts—venturing into uncharted territories, testing boundaries, and bringing back wisdom that few have access to.

What You’ll Learn:

The three stages of relationship evolution: codependence, independence, and interdependence
How to navigate “death portals” in your relationship where old dynamics must die for new ones to emerge
The Infinite Theory of Love – a powerful map for balancing freedom and safety
Why devotion feels like death in the darkest times but becomes the most exquisite experience in the lightest times
How to shift from exhausting stage two “processing” to the harmony and polarity of stage three
The difference between conditional romantic love and unconditional love
Why vulnerability and emotional expression are more effective than verbal negotiation
The immense power of their weekly “ritual” practice and how it can transform your relationship

If you’ve ever felt lost in your relationship, questioning whether the struggles are worth it, or longing for a deeper connection that seems just out of reach, this episode offers a rare glimpse into what’s possible. Andy and Libby share battle-tested wisdom from their 15-year experiment, revealing maps and frameworks they wish they’d had during their hardest moments. Their journey proves that with devotion as your North Star, you can create a relationship that continually evolves into something you wouldn’t have believed possible.

Tools/resources mentioned:
The Three Stages of Relationship- Inspired by David Deida

Connect with Libby and Andy:
Website: https://www.theartoflove.com/

Connect with Raj:
Website: https://www.rajjana.com/
Instagram: @raj_jana
iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/rs/podcast/stay-grounded-with-raj-jana/id1318038490
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/22Hrw6VWfnUSI45lw8LJBP
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@raj_jana

Legal Disclaimer: The information and opinions discussed in this podcast are for educational and entertainment purposes only. The host and guests are not medical or mental health professionals, and their advice should not be a substitute for seeking professional help. Any action taken based on the information presented is strictly at your own risk. The podcast host and their guests shall have neither liability nor responsibility to any person or entity with respect to any loss, damage, or injury caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by information shared in this podcast. Consult your physician before making any changes to your mental health treatment or lifestyle.

S2 EP79. Raj Jana: Becoming an Energy Billionaire

26 March 2025 by Raj Jana

This episode explores how to view your work, business, and creative projects through the lens of energy rather than conventional metrics. As I’ve grown in my spiritual journey, I’ve started to see everything as energy flows – when something isn’t working between team members, I see stuck energy; when sales aren’t flowing, there’s likely a kink in the chain. In this conversation with Alex, we dive into how companies have souls born from the seed of an idea, how your consciousness gets embedded into every aspect of the business, and why aligning with “what wants to happen” rather than “what I want” can lead to quantum leaps in success.

What You’ll Learn:

How to connect with the soul of your company or creative project
Why your level of consciousness directly affects the flow of energy in your business
The profound difference between “what I want” versus “what wants to happen”
How to identify where energy is stuck in your organization and how to release it
The concept of “return on energy” as a more meaningful measure than return on investment
How to become an “energy billionaire” rather than just pursuing financial success
Practical ways to access intuitive leadership for better decision-making
How creating safety is the fundamental role of conscious leadership

If you’re experiencing friction in your work, team dynamics, or sensing that your business isn’t flowing as effortlessly as it could, this episode offers a completely different perspective on your challenges. I’m not sharing concepts from business books (there aren’t any on this topic!) – this is what’s actually working for me. When you realize you’re not the owner of your creations but rather a conduit for what wants to flow through you, everything changes. You’ll make decisions from greater alignment, attract unexpected opportunities, and experience the kind of expansion that happens when you get out of your own way.

Connect with Raj:

Website: https://www.rajjana.com/
Instagram: @raj_jana
iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/rs/podcast/stay-grounded-with-raj-jana/id1318038490
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/22Hrw6VWfnUSI45lw8LJBP
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@raj_jana

S2 EP78. Dr Jack Saul: Using Community To Heal Trauma

19 March 2025 by Raj Jana

In this very special episode of Stay Grounded, Raj sits with the incredible Dr. Jack Saul. As the founding director of the International Trauma Studies Program, Jack has dedicated his life to enhancing the natural resilience and coping capacities of individuals, families, and communities that have endured or are threatened by traumatic events.

Jack’s impressive background includes faculty positions at the New York University School of Medicine’s Department of Psychiatry, the New School for Social Research Clinical Psychology Program, and the Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health. As a psychologist and family therapist, he has created numerous clinical and community-based programs in NYC and abroad for populations that have endured disaster, war, torture, and political violence.

Dr. Jack truly is one of the pioneering voices in empowering individuals to help each other heal in community settings.

What You’ll Learn;

How collective resilience can be accessed through community connection and shared experiences
Why creativity and artistic expression are powerful antidotes to trauma
The balance between personal modulation and community support in healing
How to integrate arts and different therapeutic approaches to restore harmony in communities
The importance of risk-taking in building trust and overcoming trauma’s constricting effects
Why safety and belonging are fundamental to our nervous system’s regulation
The powerful role of rituals, synchronization activities, and cultural practices in rebuilding community bonds
How diverse perspectives and skills contribute to greater collective resilience
Why feeling seen and accepted by others has such profound healing effects
The limitations of individual approaches to trauma healing and the untapped potential of collective methods

This conversation offers practical insights into how you can lean into your communities, families, and social environments to create more liberation for yourself and others. As social creatures wired for belonging, we find our greatest medicine in connection with each other. When we reclaim this fundamental truth, we unlock profound possibilities for healing & transformation.

Tools/resources mentioned in this episode:

Multifamily Psychoeducational Groups
Family Systems Approach
Parts Work

Connect with Dr Jack:

Website: https://internationaltraumastudies.org/and https://www.jacksaul.org/
Book:https://www.jacksaul.org/new-page-3

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S2 EP77. Raj Jana: Practical Tools For Preventing Burnout

12 March 2025 by Raj Jana

Burnout isn’t just prevalent in today’s culture—it’s practically glorified. We’ve been conditioned to believe that pushing harder, running faster, and sacrificing more is the only path to success. But I’ve discovered there’s a fundamental flaw in this approach: when we’re fueled by fear, anxiety, or scarcity, we’re drawing from a finite energy source that inevitably depletes us.

Over the years, I’ve experienced a profound shift in my relationship with work. Despite working more hours than ever before in my entrepreneurial ventures, I feel less burnout and more alignment than at any previous point in my career. The secret? I’ve learned to source my energy from love rather than fear.

When we operate from unconscious patterns and limiting beliefs inherited from culture, family, or religion, we’re constantly fighting against ourselves. This creates tension in our system and eventually leads to exhaustion. But when we can align with a more authentic way of being that’s in congruence with love, we tap into an infinite energy source that fuels creativity, connection, and inspiration.

In this episode, Alex and I dive deep into what it takes to make this pivotal shift from being pushed by fear to being pulled by love.

What You’ll Learn:

The fundamental difference between being pushed by fear versus being pulled by love
How to identify when you’re operating from unconscious patterns and fear-based belief systems
Practical techniques to shift your perspective when facing challenging tasks
Why traditional “hustle culture” leads to burnout and how to work intensely without depleting yourself
The role of surrender in accessing deeper sources of energy and inspiration
How to develop courage as a key ingredient for authentic living
Techniques for raising your standards by lowering your tolerance for what doesn’t serve you
Why understanding your unique design and natural rhythms is crucial for sustainable success
The transformative power of gratitude in shifting from resentment to appreciation

If you’re tired of feeling exhausted, if you’re questioning whether the hustle is worth it, or if you’re simply seeking a more sustainable way to pursue your passions—this episode is for you.

I’ve walked the path from burnout to alignment, and I know firsthand that it’s possible to do meaningful, impactful work without sacrificing your wellbeing. The frameworks and tools shared in this conversation aren’t just theoretical—they’re the exact practices that have transformed my relationship with work and allowed me to access a deeper, more sustainable source of energy.

Your life is in direct proportion to what you tolerate. If you want a better life, just tolerate less. By choosing to source your energy from love rather than fear, you can break free from the burnout cycle and discover what it truly means to work in flow.

Join Alex and I as we explore how courage, surrender, and self-understanding can help you tap into an infinite source of inspiration that makes even challenging work feel energizing rather than draining.

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S2 EP76. JP Newman: Holding Space For Our Pain (Re-release Edition)

5 March 2025 by Raj Jana

* This episode was originally filmed the week after the October 7 attack in Israel. *

Last week on October 7th, there was a grueling terrorist attack on innocent Jewish people. Since then, there have been heartbreaking levels of carnage happening to innocent Palestinian people.

My heart breaks for humanity. This podcast is not about choosing a side. So much innocent bloodshed. There are no winners in this fight.

What we need, now more than ever, is the capacity within us to relate with one another on a HUMAN level. To feel and recognize another’s pain while holding space for our own. To emotionally connect with people who look and act differently than us. With people who have differing opinions and differing life experiences from us. With people who see the world differently than we do.

And I brought on my dear friend, Mr JP Newman, to help inspire the courage and give you the tools to do so effectively.

JP Newman is a dear brother of mine, a successful entrepreneur and investor, and a mentor inside of his local Jewish communities. We had this podcast scheduled to record days after the initial Israel attacks and decided to trust the timing of it all and record something incredibly relevant for the times we are in.

Key Topics Discussed:

Why it’s difficult yet essential to remain open-hearted in times of conflict
How bearing witness to each other’s pain can dissolve barriers
The courage required to hold space for grief and disagreements with empathy
Choosing happiness over “being right” in relationships and world affairs
The power of listening with genuine curiosity about different perspectives
The ultimate goal of recognizing our common bonds despite surface differences
Faith in life’s bigger picture as an antidote to getting lost in fear-based narratives & stories
Centering our energy on what unites us rather than divides us as human beings
The inner work and mindfulness needed to tap into empathy amidst outer turmoil
Small acts of humanity that start ripples of peace: how we each play a part
Finding inspiration in leaders who embody compassionate, heart-centered leadership

If you’ve been affected by these tragic events, I want you to feel my heart with you. I’m sorry that this type of darkness exists in the world. I hope this podcast offers you solace and grounding as you navigate a very complex emotional landscape. Sending you all of my love.

Resources mentioned in this episode:
Podcast: Investing On Purpose with JP Newman and Ryan Daniel Moran

Connect with JP:
Website: https://jp-newman.com/

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S2 EP75. Michael Clark: Finding Joy In Your Inner Work

28 February 2025 by Raj Jana

I’m beyond excited to share this powerful conversation with my brother Michael Clark – one of my dearest friends, advisors, mentors, and someone I truly love and look up to. He’s a spiritual seeker, successful entrepreneur, and philanthropist who has devoted himself to a life of service. In this conversation, we talk about the why behind the work. Why devote yourself to ego dissolution? Why devote yourself to being in a relationship with somebody who triggers you? Why devote yourself to this path of service? How to actually get there and build the muscle of service so that we can be a kinder, more loving species? We went in so many directions, covering everything from the purpose of life to how laughter can be more powerful than fear, especially when healing trauma.

What You’ll Learn

Why true service begins with knowing yourself deeply
How service is like a muscle that gets stronger with practice – “start small”
The power of recognizing heroes in everyday life and uplifting them
Why triggers and attractions are “treasure maps for your soul”
How to find joy and humor even in the healing of deep trauma
The paradox of surrender: how letting go often brings more abundance
Why helping just one person matters more than trying to “end homelessness”
How disconnection from self leads to disconnection from others and from the planet
The importance of listening to life’s “whispers” before they become “yells”
Practical ways to incorporate service into daily life without burnout

This episode reminds us that spiritual growth isn’t just about contemplation but about active engagement with the world from a place of love. When we serve others without expectation, we often find that what we need comes back to us in unexpected ways. By letting go of outcomes and focusing on serving the present moment with kindness and an open heart, we align with something greater than ourselves and discover that we’re taken care of in return. Join Raj and Michael as they explore how the inner work enables us to show up more fully in service to others, and how finding joy in the journey transforms both ourselves and those around us.

Connect with Mike:

https://muse.io/clark

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